EL5 packages

Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we
should?

We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct
me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193
SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?

The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start
building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.

Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to
do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll
continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's
not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.

··· -- Dominic Cleal Red Hat Engineering

> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcleal@redhat.com>
> To: "foreman-dev" <foreman-dev@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM
> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
>
> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we
> should?
>
> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct
> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193
> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?

The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which is a massive undertaking.

>
> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start
> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.
>
> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to
> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll
> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's
> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.

I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, but we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going to be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people who might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying new machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user list to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used?

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>
>> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcleal@redhat.com>
>> To: "foreman-dev" <foreman-dev@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM
>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
>>
>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we
>> should?
>>
>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct
>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193
>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?
>
> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which is a massive undertaking.
>
>>
>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start
>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.
>>
>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to
>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll
>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's
>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.
>
> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, but we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going to be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people who might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying new machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user list to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used?

Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo?

··· On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler wrote: > ----- Original Message -----


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A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last week:

$ awk '//el5// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
-u | wc -l
235
$ awk '//el6// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
-u | wc -l
1000
$ awk '//f16// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
-u | wc -l
36
$ awk '//f17// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
-u | wc -l
77

··· On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dominic Cleal" >>> To: "foreman-dev" >>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM >>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages >>> >>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we >>> should? >>> >>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct >>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193 >>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to? >> >> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which is a massive undertaking. >> >>> >>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start >>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc. >>> >>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the >>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to >>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll >>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's >>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it. >> >> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, but we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going to be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people who might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying new machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user list to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used? > > Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo?


Dominic Cleal
Red Hat Engineering

>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcleal@redhat.com>
>>>> To: "foreman-dev" <foreman-dev@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM
>>>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we
>>>> should?
>>>>
>>>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct
>>>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193
>>>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?
>>>
>>> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which is a massive undertaking.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start
>>>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.
>>>>
>>>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
>>>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to
>>>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll
>>>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's
>>>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.
>>>
>>> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, but we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going to be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people who might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying new machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user list to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used?
>>
>> Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo?
>
> A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last week:
>
> $ awk '//el5// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> -u | wc -l
> 235
> $ awk '//el6// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> -u | wc -l
> 1000
> $ awk '//f16// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> -u | wc -l
> 36
> $ awk '//f17// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> -u | wc -l
> 77

Hmm if I am reading that right, that's over 20% of EL downloads? To my
untrained eye, that's a big enough market to support.

··· On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dominic Cleal wrote: > On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler wrote: >>> ----- Original Message -----


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> From: "Brian Gupta" <brian.gupta@brandorr.com>
> To: foreman-dev@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:55:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcleal@redhat.com>
> >>>> To: "foreman-dev" <foreman-dev@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM
> >>>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if we
> >>>> should?
> >>>>
> >>>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, correct
> >>>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the ruby193
> >>>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?
> >>>
> >>> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in
> >>> theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which is a
> >>> massive undertaking.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can start
> >>>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
> >>>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding work to
> >>>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether we'll
> >>>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If it's
> >>>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.
> >>>
> >>> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, but
> >>> we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth
> >>> supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going to
> >>> be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people who
> >>> might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying new
> >>> machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user list
> >>> to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used?
> >>
> >> Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo?
> >
> > A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last week:
> >
> > $ awk '//el5// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> > -u | wc -l
> > 235
> > $ awk '//el6// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> > -u | wc -l
> > 1000
> > $ awk '//f16// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> > -u | wc -l
> > 36
> > $ awk '//f17// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | sort
> > -u | wc -l
> > 77
>
> Hmm if I am reading that right, that's over 20% of EL downloads? To my
> untrained eye, that's a big enough market to support.

Yes, but of that 20% are probably a lot of older installations that are just retrieving the latest metadata. Many of those people probably won't ever upgrade to the 1.2 packages.

··· ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dominic Cleal wrote: > > On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler wrote: > >>> ----- Original Message -----


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Sam/All

Sorry to chime in on an old discussion here, but I've just this morning
been trying to install Foreman proxy v1.2 on a couple of EL5 hosts, and
have hit various issues with no el5 packages, and el6 packages failing to
install on el5…

Was there a definitive stance on EL5 releases?

Cheers
Gavin

··· On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:09:54 UTC+1, Sam Kottler wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Gupta" <brian...@brandorr.com > > > To: forem...@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:55:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dominic Cleal <dcl...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote: > > >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler <skot...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcl...@redhat.com > > > >>>> To: "foreman-dev" <forem...@googlegroups.com > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM > > >>>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages > > >>>> > > >>>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if > we > > >>>> should? > > >>>> > > >>>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, > correct > > >>>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the > ruby193 > > >>>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to? > > >>> > > >>> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in > > >>> theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which > is a > > >>> massive undertaking. > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can > start > > >>>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc. > > >>>> > > >>>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the > > >>>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of rebuilding > work to > > >>>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether > we'll > > >>>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. If > it's > > >>>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it. > > >>> > > >>> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support EL5, > but > > >>> we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth > > >>> supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't going > to > > >>> be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people > who > > >>> might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying > new > > >>> machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user > list > > >>> to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used? > > >> > > >> Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo? > > > > > > A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last > week: > > > > > > $ awk '/\/el5\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | > sort > > > -u | wc -l > > > 235 > > > $ awk '/\/el6\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | > sort > > > -u | wc -l > > > 1000 > > > $ awk '/\/f16\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | > sort > > > -u | wc -l > > > 36 > > > $ awk '/\/f17\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 | > sort > > > -u | wc -l > > > 77 > > > > Hmm if I am reading that right, that's over 20% of EL downloads? To my > > untrained eye, that's a big enough market to support. > > Yes, but of that 20% are probably a lot of older installations that are > just retrieving the latest metadata. Many of those people probably won't > ever upgrade to the 1.2 packages. > > > > > > -- > > > Dominic Cleal > > > Red Hat Engineering > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "foreman-dev" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > > email to foreman-dev...@googlegroups.com . > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "foreman-dev" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to foreman-dev...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > >

> From: "Gavin Williams" <fatmcgav@gmail.com>
> To: foreman-dev@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 10:39:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages
>
> Sam/All
>
> Sorry to chime in on an old discussion here, but I've just this morning
> been trying to install Foreman proxy v1.2 on a couple of EL5 hosts, and
> have hit various issues with no el5 packages, and el6 packages failing to
> install on el5…
>
> Was there a definitive stance on EL5 releases?

We aren't producing EL5 packages anymore because of the small number of people who are still on EL5. We did produce EL5 packages until 1.1 so you should be able to use those old packages [1] to get a proxy installation working.

-Sam

  1. http://yum.theforeman.org/releases/1.1/el5/x86_64/
··· ----- Original Message -----

Cheers
Gavin

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:09:54 UTC+1, Sam Kottler wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: “Brian Gupta” <brian...@brandorr.com <javascript:>>
To: forem...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:55:05 PM
Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dominic Cleal > > > <dcl...@redhat.com<javascript:>> > > wrote:

On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote:

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler > > > >> <skot...@redhat.com<javascript:>> > > wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: “Dominic Cleal” <dcl...@redhat.com <javascript:>>
To: “foreman-dev” <forem...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM
Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages

Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and if
we

should?

We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think,
correct

me if I’m wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the
ruby193

SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing to?

The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it in
theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, which
is a

massive undertaking.

The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can
start

building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc.

Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the
introduction of the SCL and so there’s quite a bit of rebuilding
work to

do. I’ve seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC whether
we’ll

continue to support EL5 and we have stated we’d try and do so. If
it’s

not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it.

I’m torn on this issue. I’d love for us to continue to support EL5,
but

we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are worth
supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren’t going
to

be used very much going forward. That being said, there are people
who

might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be deploying
new

machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the user
list

to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used?

Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo?

A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last
week:

$ awk ‘//el5// { print $1 }’ /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 |
sort

-u | wc -l
235
$ awk ‘//el6// { print $1 }’ /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 |
sort

-u | wc -l
1000
$ awk ‘//f16// { print $1 }’ /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 |
sort

-u | wc -l
36
$ awk ‘//f17// { print $1 }’ /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 |
sort

-u | wc -l
77

Hmm if I am reading that right, that’s over 20% of EL downloads? To my
untrained eye, that’s a big enough market to support.

Yes, but of that 20% are probably a lot of older installations that are
just retrieving the latest metadata. Many of those people probably won’t
ever upgrade to the 1.2 packages.


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Sam,

Cheers for confirming. Will give the 1.1 packages a go…

Gav

··· On Monday, 7 October 2013 15:47:25 UTC+1, Sam Kottler wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gavin Williams" <fatm...@gmail.com > > > To: forem...@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 10:39:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages > > > > Sam/All > > > > Sorry to chime in on an old discussion here, but I've just this morning > > been trying to install Foreman proxy v1.2 on a couple of EL5 hosts, and > > have hit various issues with no el5 packages, and el6 packages failing > to > > install on el5... > > > > Was there a definitive stance on EL5 releases? > > We aren't producing EL5 packages anymore because of the small number of > people who are still on EL5. We did produce EL5 packages until 1.1 so you > should be able to use those old packages [1] to get a proxy installation > working. > > -Sam > > 1. http://yum.theforeman.org/releases/1.1/el5/x86_64/ > > > > > Cheers > > Gavin > > > > On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:09:54 UTC+1, Sam Kottler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Brian Gupta" <brian...@brandorr.com > > > > > To: forem...@googlegroups.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:55:05 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Dominic Cleal > > > > <dcl...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On 11/06/13 04:28, Brian Gupta wrote: > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam Kottler > > > > >> <skot...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>> From: "Dominic Cleal" <dcl...@redhat.com > > > > > >>>> To: "foreman-dev" <forem...@googlegroups.com > > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:29:04 AM > > > > >>>> Subject: [foreman-dev] EL5 packages > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Does anybody have views on whether this is possible or not, and > if > > > we > > > > >>>> should? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> We discussed it a little on a hangout a while back and I think, > > > correct > > > > >>>> me if I'm wrong, but Sam suggested we might be able to get the > > > ruby193 > > > > >>>> SCL built on EL5. Has anybody tried this, or would be willing > to? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The right packages (scl-utils*) exist on EL5 to be able to do it > in > > > > >>> theory. The main issue is that everything has to get rebuilt, > which > > > is a > > > > >>> massive undertaking. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> The Katello koji has EL5 targets set up for Foreman, so we can > > > start > > > > >>>> building into foreman-nightly-rhel5 etc. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Previous releases have supported EL5, but that was before the > > > > >>>> introduction of the SCL and so there's quite a bit of > rebuilding > > > work to > > > > >>>> do. I've seen a couple of people a while back ask via IRC > whether > > > we'll > > > > >>>> continue to support EL5 and we have stated we'd try and do so. > If > > > it's > > > > >>>> not possible or worthwhile though, we should announce it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I'm torn on this issue. I'd love for us to continue to support > EL5, > > > but > > > > >>> we also have to be realistic about what kinds of things are > worth > > > > >>> supporting. Certainly i386 EL5 (or EL6 for that matter) aren't > going > > > to > > > > >>> be used very much going forward. That being said, there are > people > > > who > > > > >>> might have homogeneous environments of EL5 and still be > deploying > > > new > > > > >>> machines with it. Maybe we should create a survey and ask the > user > > > list > > > > >>> to get a better sense of which distros are the most widely used? > > > > >> > > > > >> Anyway to get download stats from the existing EL5 repo? > > > > > > > > > > A little unscientific, but here are unique IP counts over the last > > > week: > > > > > > > > > > $ awk '/\/el5\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 > > > > > sort > > > > > -u | wc -l > > > > > 235 > > > > > $ awk '/\/el6\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 > > > > > sort > > > > > -u | wc -l > > > > > 1000 > > > > > $ awk '/\/f16\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 > > > > > sort > > > > > -u | wc -l > > > > > 36 > > > > > $ awk '/\/f17\// { print $1 }' /var/log/httpd/access_log-20130609 > > > > > sort > > > > > -u | wc -l > > > > > 77 > > > > > > > > Hmm if I am reading that right, that's over 20% of EL downloads? To > my > > > > untrained eye, that's a big enough market to support. > > > > > > Yes, but of that 20% are probably a lot of older installations that > are > > > just retrieving the latest metadata. Many of those people probably > won't > > > ever upgrade to the 1.2 packages. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dominic Cleal > > > > > Red Hat Engineering > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "foreman-dev" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > > > an > > > > > email to foreman-dev...@googlegroups.com . > > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > "foreman-dev" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > > > an > > > > email to foreman-dev...@googlegroups.com . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "foreman-dev" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to foreman-dev...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >