RFC Auto Refresh on ForemanTasks#Tasks Page

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case, usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew


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I think the refresh should still be off by default.
As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off. The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to me.

Cheers,
Walden


··· On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the page updates?


··· On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off.
The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to
me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off



··· On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off.
The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to
me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we turn that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

-- Ivan


··· On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> >> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off.
The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to
me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we turn that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

In that case let's keep updating the talk progress without replacing the entire tab?

-- Ivan


··· On Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ivan Necas" <inecas@redhat.com> wrote:

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> >> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off.
The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to
me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the

I think it would be good to move the notifications to a websocket approach instead of polling. I know, I know, PRs welcome :)


··· On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:



On Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ivan Necas" <inecas@redhat.com> wrote:

The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we turn
that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

In that case let's keep updating the talk progress without replacing the
entire tab?

-- Ivan

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> >>> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off.
The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is annoying to
me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >>>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but I
often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

I think it would be good to move the notifications to a websocket approach
instead of polling. I know, I know, PRs welcome :)

We can consider using SSE for sending notifications too, but I'm uncertain how it would play with passenger. a more reliable approach would probably be to start using redis + websockets additional service proxied by apache (and webpack in development)

Ohad


··· On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> wrote:


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ivan Necas" <inecas@redhat.com> wrote:

The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we turn
that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

In that case let's keep updating the talk progress without replacing the
entire tab?

-- Ivan

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >>> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> >>>> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to
off. The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is
annoying to me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> >>>>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but
I often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

I think it would be good to move the notifications to a websocket approach
instead of polling. I know, I know, PRs welcome :)

We can consider using SSE for sending notifications too, but I'm uncertain
how it would play with passenger. a more reliable approach would probably
be to start using redis + websockets additional service proxied by apache
(and webpack in development)
I tried to make the Job Invocations donut chart work with ActionCable (so yeah, WebSockets):

https://github.com/dlobatog/foreman/tree/actioncable , needs foreman_remote_execution to work

Unfortunately..
https://www.phusionpassenger.com/library/config/apache/action_cable_integration/

If anyone wants to spend time changing our stack to be Passenger standalone behind an Apache proxy, I'd welcome the change but I am not sure whether that's worth the effort/possible bugs/etc..

Having said that, notification updates (they're cached) are only a hassle because they're logged. At least I don't notice any slowness or anything, especially since they're cached.


··· On 12/06, Ohad Levy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> wrote:

Ohad

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ivan Necas" <inecas@redhat.com> wrote:

The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we turn
that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

In that case let's keep updating the talk progress without replacing the
entire tab?

-- Ivan

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> > >>> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> > >>>> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to
off. The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default is
annoying to me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> > >>>>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks, but
I often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh. I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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notification updates (they're cached) are only a hassle because they're
logged

Agreed. In development, the extra logs make debugging more difficult; performance is not the motivation.


··· On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Daniel Lobato Garcia <elobatocs@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/06, Ohad Levy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> > wrote:

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when
the
page updates?

I think it would be good to move the notifications to a websocket
approach
instead of polling. I know, I know, PRs welcome :)

We can consider using SSE for sending notifications too, but I'm
uncertain
how it would play with passenger. a more reliable approach would probably
be to start using redis + websockets additional service proxied by apache
(and webpack in development)

I tried to make the Job Invocations donut chart work with ActionCable
(so yeah, WebSockets):

https://github.com/dlobatog/foreman/tree/actioncable , needs
foreman_remote_execution to work

Unfortunately..
https://www.phusionpassenger.com/library/config/apache/
action_cable_integration/

If anyone wants to spend time changing our stack to be Passenger
standalone behind an Apache proxy, I'd welcome the change but I am not
sure whether that's worth the effort/possible bugs/etc..

Having said that, notification updates (they're cached) are only a
hassle because they're logged. At least I don't notice any slowness or
anything, especially since they're cached.

Ohad

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM, "Ivan Necas" <inecas@redhat.com> wrote:

The only concern, as the users are used to the auto-refresh, once we
turn
that off, they can start thinking the thing got stuck.

In that case let's keep updating the talk progress without replacing
the
entire tab?

-- Ivan

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 at 17:50, Ohad Levy <ohadlevy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com> > > >>> wrote:

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to
off

+1 - PR are welcomes ;)

Oh yeah, especially notifications. Why can't they just update when
the
page updates?

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Walden Raines <wraines@redhat.com> > > >>>> wrote:

I think the refresh should still be off by default.

As part of this I would love to see *all* auto reloads default to
off. The dashboard, for example, constantly reloading by default
is
annoying to me.

Cheers,
Walden

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Andrew Kofink <akofink@redhat.com > > > > >>>>> wrote:

Hello,

We have the option of toggling auto-refresh on individual tasks,
but
I often find myself at the foreman_tasks#tasks page
intermittently clicking
the search button to monitor the state of automated tasks (in my
case,
usually bats content/proxy tests). I'm proposing a button or an
option
under the search drop down button to enable/disable auto refresh.
I think
the refresh should still be off by default.

Any comments?

- Andrew

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