Foreman / Katello and Redhat Licensing

I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to manage our systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat for this? Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat Licenses work as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it expire. Will I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest after it expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke
It will be best to talk to Red Hat representative about this, but from the project perspective - you can do whatever you want as long as this is aligned with open source licenses we use. Check all your plugins and backends you want to use, but the biggest ones are:




http://www.candlepinproject.org/ is GNU GPLv2, not in code, I filed a BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831

I am not sure if Red Hat portal will give you satellite manifests if you don't have satellite subscription tho. Talk to Red Hat in this case, without manifest you can't access Red Hat content from Katello.

LZ


··· On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Luke Miller <millerlu@gmail.com> wrote:
I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to manage our
systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat for this?
Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat Licenses work
as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it expire. Will
I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest after it
expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke

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Could you please describe the procedure? I have done it before, and right now I can not find my way around the RH portal, as I think they have changed the layout.

-andreas


··· On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 3:09:02 PM UTC+1, bk wrote:

Right now you can get manifests without a satellite subscription. That
could change, but for now these manifests would work with the upstream
project.

-- bk

On 12/05/2017 04:25 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
It will be best to talk to Red Hat representative about this, but from
the project perspective - you can do whatever you want as long as this
is aligned with open source licenses we use. Check all your plugins
and backends you want to use, but the biggest ones are:




http://www.candlepinproject.org/ is GNU GPLv2, not in code, I filed a
BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831

I am not sure if Red Hat portal will give you satellite manifests if
you don't have satellite subscription tho. Talk to Red Hat in this
case, without manifest you can't access Red Hat content from Katello.

LZ

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Luke Miller <mill...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote:
I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to
manage our
systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat for
this?
Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat Licenses
work
as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it expire.
Will
I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest after
it
expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke

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Great, that's good to know. Do you know if I need Smart Management licenses on all my RHEL licenses or if regular RHEL licenses will work?

Thanks,
Luke


··· On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 6:09:02 AM UTC-8, bk wrote:

Right now you can get manifests without a satellite subscription. That
could change, but for now these manifests would work with the upstream
project.

-- bk

On 12/05/2017 04:25 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
It will be best to talk to Red Hat representative about this, but from
the project perspective - you can do whatever you want as long as this
is aligned with open source licenses we use. Check all your plugins
and backends you want to use, but the biggest ones are:




http://www.candlepinproject.org/ is GNU GPLv2, not in code, I filed a
BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831

I am not sure if Red Hat portal will give you satellite manifests if
you don't have satellite subscription tho. Talk to Red Hat in this
case, without manifest you can't access Red Hat content from Katello.

LZ

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Luke Miller <mill...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote:
I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to
manage our
systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat for
this?
Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat Licenses
work
as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it expire.
Will
I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest after
it
expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke

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Right now you can get manifests without a satellite subscription. That could change, but for now these manifests would work with the upstream project.

-- bk


··· On 12/05/2017 04:25 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
It will be best to talk to Red Hat representative about this, but from
the project perspective - you can do whatever you want as long as this
is aligned with open source licenses we use. Check all your plugins
and backends you want to use, but the biggest ones are:




http://www.candlepinproject.org/ is GNU GPLv2, not in code, I filed a
BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831

I am not sure if Red Hat portal will give you satellite manifests if
you don't have satellite subscription tho. Talk to Red Hat in this
case, without manifest you can't access Red Hat content from Katello.

LZ

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Luke Miller <millerlu@gmail.com> wrote:
I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to manage our
systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat for this?
Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat Licenses work
as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it expire. Will
I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest after it
expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke

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Nothing in the tool will break based on access to smart management or not.

-- bk


··· On 12/05/2017 10:36 AM, Luke Miller wrote:
Great, that's good to know. Do you know if I need Smart Management
licenses on all my RHEL licenses or if regular RHEL licenses will work?

Thanks,
Luke

On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 6:09:02 AM UTC-8, bk wrote:

Right now you can get manifests without a satellite subscription. That
could change, but for now these manifests would work with the upstream
project.

-- bk

On 12/05/2017 04:25 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
It will be best to talk to Red Hat representative about this, but
from
the project perspective - you can do whatever you want as long as
this
is aligned with open source licenses we use. Check all your plugins
and backends you want to use, but the biggest ones are:


<https://github.com/theforeman/foreman/blob/develop/LICENSE>

<https://github.com/Katello/katello/blob/master/LICENSE.txt>

<https://github.com/pulp/pulp/blob/master/LICENSE>
http://www.candlepinproject.org/
<http://www.candlepinproject.org/> is GNU GPLv2, not in code, I filed a
BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520831>

I am not sure if Red Hat portal will give you satellite manifests if
you don't have satellite subscription tho. Talk to Red Hat in this
case, without manifest you can't access Red Hat content from Katello.

LZ

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Luke Miller <mill...@gmail.com> > wrote:
I want to use Foreman / Katello as a replacement for Satellite to
manage our
systems and Redhat patching. What licensing do I need from Redhat
for this?
Do I need the Smart Management licenses or will regular Redhat
Licenses work
as well?

I have a Satellite license right now but our plan is to let it
expire. Will
I have any issues creating or maintaining a subscription manifest
after it
expires?

Thanks a lot!
Luke

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Since I have the process Documented already, these steps work as of 1/23/2018.

Create a RHEL Subscription Manifest:

Log in to RHEL’s Online support site (https://access.redhat.com)
Scroll Down to “Satellite Organizations” and Click the Link
Click "Subscription Asset Manager Organizations"
Click "Create a Subscription Asset Manager Organization"
Under “Name” use an org name that matches the organization name created in Katello.
Under “Subscription Asset Manager Organization Version:” choose "Subscription Asset Manager 1.4"
Click "Create"
Under “Attached Subscriptions” click "Attach a Subscription"
In the “Attach a Subscription” page find “Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server, Standard” headings (dark gray) and check the box next to a license set to import into the Manifest file.
In the “Quantity” Box on the Right, type the number of subscriptions to include in the Manifest (See the first number in Column 2 - This is the maximum number you can put into the QTY Field).
Click “Attach” and “Close” the number of attached subs should now show up in the table at the bottom in the “Attached Subscriptions” Tab.
When complete, click “Download Manifest” in the upper right corner.
A manifest file will download to your computer that can be used to populate Katello.

Import Manifest into Katello:

Content -> RedHat Subscriptions
Click "Import Manifest"
Click "Choose File"
Navigate to and Choose the Downloaded Manifest File.
Click the “Upload” button.

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Ah! Choosing SAM, of course! Many thanks Douglas!

-andreas

well SAM is not available anymore as it is being EOL.
You either need a Red Hat Satellite subscription or you can get a Smart Management (bundle) with one of your redhat enterprise linux subscriptions. If you purchase any product bundled which included Smart Management then automatically you will get 50 Quantity of Red Hat Satellite Product in your account.